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acorn
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Re: Diazepam

Postby acorn » Fri Mar 06, 2015 4:03 pm

Hello

I don't mean to take this thread off track but I'm wondering about the people that have been prescribed pregablin as well as diazepam and how well it works for you also what circumstances you take them. Do you take them together or different times? My consultant psychiatrist recommended switching to pregablin as I have increased my use of diazepam as I have started to become more anxious on a daily basis.

Edited to correct predictive text.
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Re: Diazepam

Postby Fertiv » Fri Mar 06, 2015 9:28 pm

Hi,

i was initially given the pregabs as a regular dosage alongside Venlafaxine then i phased it out a bit and only took as needed, I'm back pretty much taking it all the time now, I've moved between the two fairly easily over the past 5 years. i found it a bit difficult when working to concentrate and be "with it" after taking a regular dose of pregabs, but then i got into a stressed/anxiety state and needed it more.

I find in dependency terms I can take it or leave it without suffering any withdrawals or whatever you want to call it (unlike the Venlafaxine which I don't know about you but I basically set an alarm to take it one time otherwise i get the head shocks)

Its interesting that both you and acorn (I'm assuming you're having a predictive text moment!!!) have said that the specialist favoured pregabalin with the GPs pushing (of course we could all have seen the same guy!) but for me I've always been very reluctant to go down the Valium road and ive only had it for a very short time, without much affect.

I had to go my own way to see a psychiatrist and there seemed to be a big difference in the way he wanted to handle the whole thing vs the GP.
The GP gave a small dosage of ven without adding anything for anxiety. The psych trebled the dosage of Ven and added basically as much pregab as i could swallow without passing out. it seems to me that the GPs are very cautious and prescribe the minimum, whereas the psych was looking to hit it with as much as possible.

If I was given the choice I wouldn't take both Valium and Pregablin, one or the other, and i would favour the pregablin as for me i've had no problems with it at all. i think as i said before, its a bit tricky to find the right level, where you are calm but able to focus ok, but once you find the sweet spot i've found it effective and haven't found i developed tolerance and needed to increase the dosage for the same effect.

Are you finding that you are getting more anxious, or is it because you're developing tolerance for the valium?

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Re: Diazepam

Postby acorn » Fri Mar 06, 2015 9:44 pm

Oh dear ! Yes very much predictive text I meant pregablin not pregnant. Hehe it would be very strange if my dr prescribed pregnancy as a cure for anxiety.

No it's not a tolerance thing as the diazepam works for me when I take it. It is more that the diazepam was prescribed for emergency anxiety attacks and distress to the extreme I was self harming or taking overdoses to escape. My anxiety is reaching that level a lot more over the past few weeks so my psychiatrist is looking to control it on a daily basis rather than fire fighting when it becomes unbearable. She does not want me taking diazepam daily because of the addiction and tolerance risks.
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Re: Diazepam

Postby Madame » Fri Mar 06, 2015 9:54 pm

Diazepam=The ONLY thing that work for me!

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Re: Diazepam

Postby MartynH » Sat Mar 07, 2015 12:31 am

Fertiv wrote:An old thread i know, but I thought i'd add something.

I've had some issues with the prescribing of Diazepam.... the psychiatrist I saw privately prescribed Pregabalin rather than Diazepam as there was a much lower risk of addiction or dependency.
My GP has consistently tried to change me from PG to Dizz without any clear medical reason (only its what we normally prescribe for anxiety).
I suspect more likely that it is still a patented medicine and thus much more expensive.
I've found it helpful in the right doses, too much can turn you into a dozing ball of fuzz, to little leaves you stil anxious, you have to work at getting the precise point.


diazepam is cheap becasue it;s been off patent for years

not sure if Pregabalin is still on patent

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Re: Diazepam

Postby acorn » Tue Mar 10, 2015 2:45 pm

I don't know if pregablin is still on patent or not. I think it probably is because I have only seen it under the brand name lyrica.
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Re: Diazepam

Postby alisontiz » Wed Mar 11, 2015 1:22 am

Hello. I take Pregabalin twice each day and I think it's the best med I've had over the whole of my life. I think I've been taking it for about two years. When I started it, I got very obsessional and quite manic about gardening but that did settle down. I take it with venlafaxine and quetiapine. At one point I was told by my Consultant to stop taking it over only two days because they thought it was causing me to have tardive dyskinesia (it wasn't). I have to say stopping so suddenly made me extremely ill to the extent that I was bedridden with flu-like symptoms and terrible depression for ages. Eventually they let me restart it and I have been on a comparatively even keep ever since. I take diazepam when things get too difficult for me. So...I'm a fan of Pregabalin although I know that it may not work for others. Wishing you well. Alison

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Re: Diazepam

Postby Fertiv » Wed Mar 11, 2015 1:56 am

I think a lot of the time doctors spend far too much time looking at guidelines and not enough listening to patients.

For me one of the worst things i suffer from is insomnia, particularly when i'm off pregablin. I was prescribed zopiclone for this, but now I'm no longer allowed it as the doctors say you may become dependent.... but for me what's worse, insomnia or dependence on sleeping pills to allow me to actually sleep on a regular and regimented basis. (and whats more i took z for 2 years full time and another three intermittently on the same dosage with the same amazing effectiveness around 20 mins until knock out).
What troubles me the most, as a long term depressive, is that the questions of taking away meds and changing meds seem to be being made on a one size fits all model of what a depressed patient should do, rather than listening and understanding.

For you Alsontiiz, is taking away a med the best solution to a problem? or looking deeper than that?

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Re: Diazepam

Postby alisontiz » Wed Mar 11, 2015 12:15 pm

Hello. When they stopped my Pregabalin over only two days it was because they thought it was causing tardive dyskinesia even though I told them I'd had the involuntary movements long, long before I started Pregabalin and it was the Risperidone I'd been on before which had caused the tardive dyskinesia. The withdrawal was horrendous and I was too ill to even ask for help. I sipped from a single glass of water by my bed for some days and ate from a packet of glucose tablets which were also by my bed (my husband's diabetic). I don't know how long that went on for until my Sister eventually came and found me. I had every horrible symptom that one could imagine - physical and mental. I have never been so ill. I haven't ever experienced anything like that with stopping and starting other meds, even diazepam which everyone says is so hard to stop; I seem to be able to take it or leave it and just use it in my own way in doses I make up for myself! Thanks to everyone who is contributing to this thread; I'm finding it very interesting. Wishing you well, Alison

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Re: Diazepam

Postby austria » Thu Sep 23, 2021 11:48 am

you should consult your doctor, that is best for you!


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